Transcript [00:00] how it started. [00:01] >> What's a Zionist and how are they [00:03] similar to a [00:05] >> pretty simple pretty simple uh viewing [00:09] Jewish people as absolutely higher [00:12] existence and viewing Jewish people as [00:16] overlords and masters [00:18] >> and how it ended. I support the opinion [00:22] uh that Palestinian state should not [00:25] exist and the Palestinians should well [00:28] they should be accepted into Jordan or [00:31] Egypt or whatever. I I don't say they [00:35] have to go to Jordan. You're more to the [00:36] right than I am. So you are more Zionist [00:38] than me and I'm wearing the hoodie. [00:39] [laughter] [00:42] >> What's the flag behind you? [00:44] >> Uh no no no. It's non nonpolitical. [00:47] Nonpolitical. [00:48] >> Ah it's not political. It's a shame. [00:49] >> Yeah. I see you have a star of David [00:52] behind you. [00:53] >> Very political. Yeah. [laughter] [00:55] >> Uh [00:57] indeed, indeed. Uh I guess u [01:02] well uh you might be a kind of a Jewish [01:06] nationalist. [01:07] >> I'm a Zionist. You could say Jewish [01:10] nationalist. Yeah, maybe. [01:12] >> Ah. Uh well well Zionist. uh [01:18] uh [01:20] [gasps] [01:21] uh how to put it better from my point of [01:24] view, it's uh you know uh many many uh [01:28] of my kindred view Zionists as like [01:34] equal to Hitlerist Nazist. [01:37] >> Then that suggests that your friends are [01:40] retards. [01:44] M [01:48] possibly, but I do respect their [01:50] viewpoint. [01:51] >> Okay. So, do you respect the viewpoint? [01:52] Play it back to me. I'm all ears. What's [01:55] a Zionist and how are they similar to a [01:57] Nazi? [01:59] >> Uh, [02:01] pretty pretty simple. Pretty simple. uh [02:05] viewing Jewish people as absolutely [02:09] higher existence [02:11] uh and absolutely superior to every [02:14] other nation and viewing Jewish people [02:18] uh as over awards and masters [02:23] to any [02:25] and that's what a Zionist is. [02:28] Ah [02:31] yes. [02:32] >> Which of the Zionist thinkers said that? [02:34] Was it Herzel? Was it Benorian? [02:37] Was it who said that? Was it Jabatinski? [02:42] >> Uh [02:45] the Shulhar. That was Ysef. [02:47] He wasn't the Zionist. He predated [02:49] Zionism the movement [02:52] by almost a thousand years. Well, oh no, [02:55] 500 years. that [02:57] >> ah uh well uh you can uh twist and turn [03:03] uh every movement uh to [03:06] >> I'm just No, no, no. Slow down. I'm just [03:09] asking for one and the Shanov doesn't [03:11] say that, but I'm just asking for one [03:14] Zionist thinker that said what you just [03:16] described because absolutely that's what [03:18] the Nazis believed and they put it into [03:20] action. They slaughtered six millions of [03:22] my people. They built factories to erase [03:24] the existence of the Jews. [03:26] >> Actually, there were not six million [03:31] Jews in Europe by that time. [03:34] >> That's because they killed them. The [03:36] Europe Europe's population of Jews was [03:40] around 9 million and it was reduced by 6 [03:44] million. Twothirds of Europe's Jews were [03:46] killed. [03:47] >> Do you know who Iman is? [03:51] Uh I'm not quite familiar with that [03:54] name. Uh but [03:56] >> you know Ikeman Ikeman Ikeman was the [03:58] architect of the Holocaust. So he was [04:00] the guy that designed it, implemented [04:03] it. Top guy underneath Adolf Hitler. He [04:06] said he would die to go to his grave [04:08] laughing that he'd killed 5 million [04:10] Jews. He got the number wrong. He was a [04:11] million out. But he himself is on record [04:15] saying it. The Einskrupin. You know who [04:17] the Inats Groupen were? [04:19] Oh. Oh. Yeah. Uh I'm quite aware about [04:22] that group and and I'm quite aware that [04:25] they have killed like uh you see uh [04:30] multiply uh number of Jews killed by an [04:34] grouping by five uh and uh you get a [04:38] number of Russians that they have [04:40] killed. [04:42] >> Um so I'm very sure the ants group and [04:45] killed more Russians. There there's one [04:46] subtle difference though. The Russians [04:49] were an army that were rightly at war [04:52] with the Nazis. The Jews were a [04:54] vulnerable minority. We had no army. We [04:56] were slaughtered. [04:57] >> Civilians. [04:58] >> No. Many civilians were killed as well. [05:00] Absolutely. But there was two nations at [05:02] war. The Soviets, which was a one of [05:05] these superpowers, [05:07] and the Nazis. And obviously the Nazis [05:10] were dogs. So they slaughter civilians. [05:12] Where they find them? They slaughter [05:14] Russians. They slaughter Jews. They [05:16] slaughter communists. They slaughter [05:17] everybody that they perceive to be an [05:20] enemy. But bringing it back to Zionism, [05:23] cuz Habibi, I'm wearing the jumper. I am [05:25] hardcore. I'm deep in this. On that [05:27] bookshelf, there's a number of Zionist [05:29] literature. It's a kind of off camera, [05:31] but I know what a Zionist is. And what [05:33] you described is insane. A Zionist. Can [05:37] I tell you what a Zionist is? Just so [05:39] you don't repeat the same [05:41] gibberish that you just repeated. A [05:43] Zionist is somebody that believes that [05:45] Jews have a right to a home, a state, a [05:49] country in their ancestral home in [05:51] Israel. So today, that means anyone that [05:53] supports the existence of Israel as a [05:55] Jewish state, they are Zionist. Nothing [05:58] to do with supremacy. In fact, the first [06:01] prime minister, Bengurion, states that [06:04] not one right will be given to the Jews [06:06] that isn't given to the Arabs. We're the [06:09] opposite of supremacists. We have Arabs [06:11] in our government. Arabs can vote. Arabs [06:14] are in the army. Every time I get ill, [06:16] half the doctors in the hospitals are [06:18] Arabs. I put my hands in my life in the [06:21] hands of an Arab. There's nothing the [06:23] best performing group in education in [06:26] Israel are Christian Arabs, not [06:28] religious Jews. So, whoever has told you [06:32] that Zionism is a belief that Jews are [06:35] superior to other people is a and [06:38] you should distance yourself from them [06:41] because they're filling your head with [06:45] ideas and you seem like you're [06:47] intelligent. So, abandon those dumb [06:50] friends and associate yourself with [06:52] smarter friends and you'll rise [06:54] together. Hang around with idiots that [06:57] going to drag you down. [07:00] Uh well uh maybe uh you could uh uh drop [07:05] me uh some reading uh materials about [07:09] Zionism [07:11] uh and uh [07:14] something that I could maybe educate [07:17] myself with. [07:18] >> Yeah, I happily happily or or better yet [07:21] you can go to my YouTube where you'll be [07:22] appearing and you can watch hundreds of [07:25] videos. That's my YouTube. So, that's [07:26] where we're going to be this [07:28] conversation. [07:31] >> Uh, all righty. Let me save it [07:34] somewhere. [07:40] Uh, yeah. Uh, I'll definitely [07:43] do some watching about your channel and [07:47] uh, what do you think about the current [07:49] policies of Israel? Israel and their [07:52] conflict with Iran. [07:54] So, the conflict with Iran, I think [07:56] we've done spectacularly. Um, we [07:58] eliminated their supreme leader. We had [08:00] air superiority over their skies. We [08:03] destroyed their most powerful proxy. We [08:07] neuted their second proxy, the Houthis. [08:09] We took all their leadership. NASA's [08:12] gone. Sinoa's gone. Han's gone. Sino, [08:15] the brother Dev's gone. Is gone. Salam [08:19] is gone. All of these guys who posed a [08:21] major threat to my nation are no longer [08:23] with us. [08:25] >> They they they still control the [08:27] straight of our moon. [08:28] >> So the straight of home that's it's a [08:30] sounds a very cynical thing to say. I me [08:33] and my people are fighting for our [08:35] survival, our existence. That's our [08:36] priority. We don't want to be nuked. We [08:39] don't want our children to be [08:40] slaughtered in their sleep. And this is [08:43] our objective. Now the world's concern [08:46] is commerce, global trade. And Iran does [08:49] control HMOS. And I think there's much [08:52] that could have been done to prevent the [08:55] Iranians from [08:58] using it as a weapon, economic weapon [09:00] against the world. And I think people [09:03] have dropped the ball there. But when it [09:05] comes to my objective, and my objective [09:07] is survival. I don't care about global [09:08] trade. I care that my daughter is [09:10] breathing tomorrow. That's my objective. [09:13] And that's my measure. And by that [09:15] measure, it's been a tremendous success. [09:17] We've exposed Iran as not being the [09:20] threat that they were that they were [09:22] perceived to be. We've removed the [09:24] potential them for them to acquire nukes [09:26] in the near future. We've eliminated [09:29] their most powerful threat on our [09:31] border, Hezbollah. They're a fraction of [09:33] the strength they were before the war. [09:36] >> The threat on the southern border. [09:37] >> Just a moment. Uh you are just repeating [09:41] a narrative by Donald Trump. I'm not [09:44] repeating. No, it's the opposite. Donald [09:45] Trump is focused very much on the [09:46] economy. I'm trying not to speak ill of [09:49] decisions America's made because I'm [09:51] very grateful for the allyship that we [09:54] get from America, but I think any [09:56] mistakes that have been make been made [09:58] in this campaign have come from America [10:01] and not from Israel. I'm speaking very [10:03] much Israel first, not America first. Uh [10:06] well uh and uh from my viewpoint from my [10:10] viewpoint that uh Benny Netanyahu uh [10:15] well uh he has uh royally uh uh p my [10:21] crude page he has royally up. [10:26] >> Maybe my measure isn't what global [10:29] opinion is. My my measure of whether [10:31] Netanyahu or any Israeli prime minister [10:35] has succeeded in in war is are my [10:38] children safer today than they were [10:40] yesterday? That's the measure. And yes, [10:43] they are. [10:43] >> Uh not quite. Not quite. Uh you see uh [10:48] uh Israel anti-air capacitors are [10:51] completely exhausted by that point. [10:55] >> Iran, you you need to get off RT. you [10:58] need to get off um press TV. Our air [11:00] defenses are phenomenally strong. Trust [11:03] me, I live here. I know our situation. [11:07] They are not depleted. They are far from [11:09] depleted. [11:11] >> Uh well uh that may be because Iran is [11:16] striking American bases over of the [11:19] Gulf. [11:20] >> Ask yourself the question. [11:22] Ask yourself the question, why is Iran, [11:25] who've continuously fired missiles, why [11:28] have they not fired one missile at [11:30] Israel since we last humiliated them? [11:35] >> Uh, did you humiliate them? Really? [11:38] >> Yes. I mean, that supreme leader is [11:40] dead. Yes, he's the supreme leader of [11:42] the religious world for them. Yes, we [11:44] humiliated them. [11:46] >> Their proxies are destroyed. We could [11:49] fly over the skies of Tehran freely. We [11:52] sent 200 planes over. It's the these are [11:55] operations, military operations that are [11:56] unparalleled. The American Air Force [11:58] looked at us and said, "This is [12:00] phenomenal what they're doing." We took [12:02] the F-35, we upgraded it. We created a [12:05] network of planes in the sky. We flew [12:07] 2,000 miles without touching down on any [12:10] country, refueling the sky. We didn't [12:12] lose one pilot. Not one pilot. We their [12:16] navy is crushed. Their fire capac [12:20] ability to fire missiles has been [12:22] severely disabled. And the reason that [12:25] Iran is not firing at Israel and is [12:27] still firing like cowards at the Gulf [12:29] States who don't have our power, the [12:32] reason they're doing that is they are [12:33] terrified of giving us an excuse to rain [12:37] down fire on the regime. [12:42] Uh let me guess uh that uh they do have [12:47] a background deal with United States [12:51] because the United States are simply not [12:53] giving you enough [12:55] anti-air missiles. [12:57] >> We we have our own we have we build our [13:00] own. [13:01] >> Nope. [13:02] >> You're mistaken. [13:04] >> You do not have three there. There's the [13:08] arrow. There's the iron dome. There's [13:10] multiple different systems we have for [13:11] intercepting missiles depending where [13:14] they come and what capacity and many of [13:16] them are made in collaboration with [13:18] America. This is one of the things that [13:19] America gets from us. We have the most [13:21] superior air defenses in the world and [13:24] we build them in collaboration with [13:26] America. [13:27] >> Uh Iron Dome goes down in one day. [13:33] >> So ask yourself a question. Yeah. You [13:36] just you don't even need to go to [13:38] Zinosaurs. Go to the most anti-inous [13:40] source on the internet. Look at Iran [13:43] Israel war. Look at Israel's casualties [13:46] and look at Iran's casualties. Who's are [13:49] higher? [13:51] >> Uh you know uh civilian casualties of [13:54] Iran is higher because [13:57] >> military military and civilian [14:00] >> uh civilian casualties of Iran is [14:03] >> tragically yes because many many [14:05] Iranians are on our side. We love the [14:07] Iranian people. where we supported their [14:09] uprising. We support the we don't like [14:11] the regime. We love the people. And [14:13] tragically, non-combatants have been [14:14] killed tragically. But that happens in [14:17] any war. [14:18] >> The difference is we aim for military. [14:20] We aim for military, which is why all [14:22] their leaders are dead. You don't happen [14:24] to accidentally hit. [14:27] >> That's not an accident. Uh you guys [14:30] simply murder [14:32] Iranian civilians just for the [14:37] >> you're you're absolute you're I take it [14:40] back. You are a We support the [14:43] the Israel supports the Iranian people. [14:46] The Iranian people support Israel. There [14:49] is huge solidarity. It would not be in [14:51] our strategic interest to target [14:53] civilians because we're dependent on the [14:55] civilians uprising to replace the regime [14:58] and they're dependent on us removing the [15:00] regime to help them uprise or weakening [15:02] the regime so they can uprise. This is [15:04] the whole why would we target the very [15:06] people we need and we support [15:11] >> ah [15:12] >> ah [15:13] >> because the people do not support you [15:16] >> the people there is h you go on my [15:19] YouTube go on my Instagram you'll watch [15:21] millions of Iranians watching my content [15:23] and supporting us under this video [15:25] you're going to have Iranians telling [15:26] you you're an idiot and they support [15:29] Israel guarantee it [15:31] >> yeah I will watch uh hundreds and [15:34] thousands of Iranians living in America [15:38] who support you. [15:41] [snorts] [15:41] >> You know, it's like it's like Ukrainians [15:44] living in Europe uh who support Ukraine [15:48] in fight with Russia. [15:49] >> Who were the ten who were the tens of [15:51] thousands of people that the regime [15:53] killed on the streets of Iran? [15:59] >> Were they Israeli? [16:01] >> Were they American? No, they were [16:03] Iranian civilians that protested the [16:05] government and got slaughtered by the [16:07] bloodthirsty regime that you support. [16:10] >> Uh uh yeah. Yeah. Uh you know, it's like [16:15] billions killed by Stalin in USSR. [16:19] Funny [16:23] hysterical. Anyway, it hasn't been a [16:26] pleasure, but I've got my video. Uh well [16:28] well uh uh it was uh definitely decent [16:35] conversation. [16:37] Uh thank you for that. [16:38] >> It was but you didn't listen. You're [16:39] speaking to someone with a lot more [16:40] knowledge on the subject than you and [16:42] you chuckled your way through while [16:44] sipping your beer without actually [16:46] listening. My advice to you would be to [16:48] go back, replay this video and [16:50] everything I've said, go away and [16:52] research. Educate yourself. You're a You [16:55] are a consumer of propaganda that's [16:59] designed to make you dumber. It's why [17:01] you think we have no air defenses. It's [17:03] why you think we're killing Iranian [17:05] civilians on purpose. It's why you think [17:08] that Israel has lost the war. It's why [17:11] you laugh and mock Trump while hailing [17:16] Russia while hailing like you are [17:18] consuming disinformation propaganda and [17:22] it's making you dumb. Now, I'm hoping [17:23] it's cuz you're drinking the beer and [17:25] it's the beer that's speaking and when [17:27] you sober up, you'll change your [17:30] >> uh you know what? Uh let's uh [snorts] [17:38] how to put it better. Uh let's uh look [17:41] up uh at uh opposing side sources. [17:45] >> Bro, I do this all day and every day. [17:48] All I do is read the Arab press. All I [17:51] do is read the Russian press. All I do [17:53] is read it with the beautiful thing with [17:55] the internet you can translate. And all [17:58] I do is consume content from the other [18:01] side. It's why I know and can smell [18:03] someone who has been brainwashed by [18:06] propaganda from a mile away. I know [18:09] exactly where you're getting your [18:10] content from. Probably not the actual [18:13] direct source because it's probably the [18:14] quote that translated into Croatian, but [18:17] it's coming from Russia. You are [18:19] speaking Russian propaganda. [18:22] >> Yeah. Uh actually actually uh I do read [18:26] uh like sources like bright part. I do [18:30] read sources like next it's uh kind of [18:34] uh bear Russian uh and [18:39] uh and anti-Russian channels. Uh I do [18:43] read Ukrainian channels uh and well well [18:48] uh [18:51] unfortunately they are deluded. [18:55] Well I'm I don't write or work for [18:57] Breitbart. I'm nothing to do with the [19:00] Ukrainian Russian war. I'm a Zionist [19:02] from the Middle East born in Europe. [19:04] Moved to the Middle East and I [19:06] specialize in Israel. That's my subject. [19:09] That's a domain I know inside out. And [19:12] Israel is the most talked about nation [19:14] on the planet. And the overwhelming [19:17] majority of what you read is propaganda. [19:20] It's not fact-based. It's absolute BS. I [19:25] live here. I experience it. I see with [19:27] my own eyes, connected with the [19:29] government, connected with the military. [19:30] I know the reality on the ground. And [19:33] you are fed propaganda. And you lap it [19:36] up like a kitten lapping up milk from a [19:38] saucer. Uh well uh you know uh why I [19:42] laugh about Breitbart because uh they [19:45] essentially they essentially do uh [19:48] exactly uh do exact the narrative that [19:52] you are talking about [19:55] >> because Bride Yeah. Breitbart uh is I [20:00] guess they are most they are most [20:02] proionist. Uh [20:05] >> no bro Breitbart is not pro most [20:07] proionist. It's an American. It's [20:10] America first. They may have Zionist [20:13] Israeli sympathies absolutely, but they [20:15] are not the most Zionist. Read the [20:17] Israeli press if you want to read [20:19] Zionist content. Read any any of the [20:23] Israeli publications. Then you'll [20:24] understand what Zionism is. Not an [20:26] American sitting in America writing for [20:30] Americans with an American angle, an [20:33] agenda. That's Breitbart's agenda. [20:36] Breitbart is America and the West. [20:39] Ah, by the way, by the way, uh maybe [20:43] maybe uh since we got to that point uh [20:47] of um talking about uh American agenda [20:51] and uh such and such, uh maybe you could [20:54] tell me uh if if [20:58] uh there is um some kind of [21:02] uh advancement uh or influence of [21:07] Zionism on American Congress or whatever [21:11] like from your just from your point of [21:12] >> a fraction a fraction of the influence [21:14] that a nation like say Qatar has a [21:16] fraction [21:18] Qatar has invested billions and billions [21:22] and billions of dollars into influencing [21:24] American politics subverting American [21:27] universities universities alone [21:29] estimates are between seven and hundred [21:31] billion dollars they've put into the [21:33] universities this is one tiny little [21:35] tiny little nation the Saudis have also [21:37] piled huge sums of money into America, [21:40] Israel, a fraction. And most of the [21:42] Zionist influence in America is actually [21:44] coming from evangelical Christians. So [21:46] Apac, the majority of the money that [21:48] they raise comes from evangelical [21:50] Christians. Their membership evangelical [21:53] Christians. I'm a Jew. I'm not a [21:55] Christian. And so [21:57] yes, there are there is lobbying for the [22:01] state of Israel in America just like [22:03] there's lobbering lobbying for every [22:05] single political cause, particularly [22:07] something as [22:11] popular amongst the nations and divisive [22:15] as Israel. Obviously there's lobbying [22:18] that goes on, but it's a fraction [22:19] compared to entities that you've never [22:21] heard of. Russia influences in other [22:23] ways. Russia influences via the media [22:25] via it runs campaigns. It produces the [22:29] the kind of content that you're [22:30] consuming. Israel doesn't do any of [22:33] this. Israel is the most maligned nation [22:36] in the media. [22:38] >> Uh uh wait a moment. Uh so uh does [22:42] Israel have connection uh with uh any [22:44] kind of [22:47] American Kabadi Jew movement? [22:50] >> No. Kabad Lubovich. Kabad Lubovich. [22:53] Yeah, [22:54] >> they're a small sect of Jews that are [22:58] hidic. They followed a rabbi called [23:01] Manelne [23:02] and he passed away and most of them now [23:05] believe that he was the Jewish Messiah. [23:07] He wasn't. They're confused, but a lot [23:08] of them believe this. They what they do [23:11] is they go they their rabbi um the they [23:15] call him the rebi encouraged his [23:17] followers to go to the furthest areas of [23:20] the world and bring Jews back to [23:22] Judaism. So if you go to the se shells, [23:26] well probably not anymore, but if you go [23:28] to Russia, if you go to [23:32] Croatia, you will find in many cities [23:34] something called the Kabad House, which [23:36] is where any Jews who are either [23:38] tourists there or visiting can go and [23:40] eat kosher food and they will provide sa [23:44] um Sabbath services. They have no [23:46] political power. They have no they [23:49] because of where they are that often you [23:51] will have around the world where you [23:54] have small Jewish communities there will [23:56] have Jews that are prominent within a [23:59] community praying at their their [24:01] synagogue. So if you're in Moscow there [24:03] will be a kabad synagogue and it's [24:05] likely to be frequented by Jews who [24:08] aren't kabad but connected. That's the [24:10] closest they get to any influence. They [24:12] will have congregants who may have [24:14] power. Most of their congregants are [24:16] simple Jews like me, but because they're [24:18] everywhere, they will occasionally have [24:20] one or two influential people that visit [24:23] them, but they have no control over [24:25] anything or anywhere. [24:27] >> Yeah. They do not have uh any real [24:30] connection to Israeli political powers. [24:33] >> No. No. I mean, no more so than any [24:35] other Jewish denomination. [24:38] >> Uh yeah. Uh because uh you see uh I was [24:42] kind of um [24:45] uh not what to say concerned uh but uh [24:50] maybe um I had such um [24:57] conviction uh that uh uh Kabadi Jews had [25:01] strong ties to Israel political powers [25:04] and they were like expanding Israel [25:06] political powers all [25:08] >> it's the opposite They're re so a lot of [25:11] within the Orthodox Jewish world there [25:12] are Jews which believe that the state of [25:14] Israel should never have been created [25:17] but now it's being reestablished before [25:19] the Messiah has come they support it. [25:21] There are orthodox Jews that believe [25:23] that the state of Israel should have [25:25] been created for religious reasons. [25:26] There are Orthodox Jews who are against [25:29] the creation and against its existence. [25:31] Now the the rebi I was the rabbi I was [25:33] speaking about his position was that [25:37] Zionism in its original form was not a [25:40] good thing. It was anti-religious. But [25:42] now that now that the state is here [25:45] that's a good thing and that they are [25:47] very neutral when it comes to politics. [25:49] For instance [25:51] he they are not Zionist. They are not a [25:54] Zionist movement. There's a lot of Kabad [25:57] um followers, the followers of the the [25:59] the theidus [26:02] that are pro-Israel, but there's many [26:04] who are also not pro-Israel. Um there [26:07] are it's a broad movement and they have [26:10] no they're not there are religious Jews [26:12] who are deeply Zionist. I belong to that [26:14] community, the data um the national [26:16] religious Jews and we believe I believe [26:19] in Judea and Samaria, the West Bank [26:21] should all be Israel as an example. I [26:24] don't support a Palestinian state. I'm [26:25] against that. Kabad are not one of those [26:28] Jews. They're not political. Uh well uh [26:32] truth be told from my point of side uh [26:35] about like a pol Pal Palestinian state [26:38] uh [26:40] uh well uh I support the opinion uh that [26:45] Palestinian state should not exist and [26:48] the Palestinians should well uh they [26:50] should be accepted into Jordan or Egypt [26:54] or whatever and uh entire entirety of [26:57] what is Palestine is called right Now [27:00] they should it should belong to Jewish [27:02] state simply because like a Jewish state [27:06] should be there and it should be left [27:08] alone. [27:09] >> So then we have [27:11] >> it should not be touched. And for me, [27:13] I'm probably even not as Zionist as you [27:15] are to use the term Zionist in the sense [27:17] that I'm happy for the the Arabs and [27:19] Judea and Samaria if they're friendly [27:21] and happy to go with it to to be given [27:24] residency then citizenship and become [27:26] full members of the society. Just like [27:28] in Israel, there are Muslims who have [27:30] complete equality with me. I want for [27:32] their children what my children have [27:34] peace and prosperity. I want them to [27:36] have the same opportunity. I'm not I'm I [27:38] don't say they have to go to Jordan. [27:40] You're more to the right than I am. So [27:41] you are more Zionist than me and I'm [27:43] wearing the hoodie. [laughter] [27:46] >> H actually yes. Uh but you see uh I at [27:51] the same time I might be more Zionist [27:54] than you but I'm at the same time I'm [27:57] more of Russian nationalist. [28:00] >> Yeah, I I get that. I get that you're a [28:02] Russian nationalist. You don't have [28:03] [laughter] to spell that. And look, for [28:05] my thing is I now that I consider myself [28:10] not a domain expert, but I know enough [28:12] about the Israel Palestinian conflict to [28:14] go toe-to-toe and have a conversation [28:16] with most people. I know the area pretty [28:18] well. And I know that I only know this [28:20] much and there's still a mountain that I [28:22] still need to learn. So when it comes to [28:23] the complexities of Russia, Ukraine, [28:26] Serbia, all of these territories, I know [28:29] that I know very little. I know very [28:32] little. And so I stay out. I stay out of [28:34] other conflicts. I focus on the one I [28:36] know inside out so I don't become as [28:39] though I am I'm not perceived to be an [28:41] idiot. I obviously have opinions. I have [28:43] a stance on Ukraine, Russia, but I would [28:45] never argue it with somebody because I'm [28:48] not qualified. I'm underqualified for my [28:50] position. My position is born largely [28:53] out of ignorance and consuming [28:56] information that's filtered through [28:58] other people who have agendas, whether [29:00] it's coming from the Russians or the [29:02] Ukrainians. And so I avoid I avoid other [29:05] conflicts. I think it's the most [29:06] sensible thing anybody can do unless [29:09] you're prepared to put in the hard work. [29:12] >> Well, uh indeed indeed. And from my [29:15] point of view, uh well uh [29:18] let the Jews have their own country. [29:23] Why not? Why not? [29:26] >> And I think that's where we'll end the [29:27] conversation that you are the Zionist [29:29] and I am the student. [laughter] [29:34] Yeah. And uh Yeah. And let the Russia be [29:38] the empire and never mess with the [29:40] Jewish country. [29:41] >> Yeah. I would advise Russia doesn't mess [29:43] with us. [laughter] [29:46] >> Yeah. Besides, you know, uh [29:49] at the Far East, we do have the thing is [29:52] called [29:56] it's like a Jewish outdoor [29:59] with zero Jews in it today. The Jews [30:02] didn't want to live in some like frozen [30:04] hell hole that but we we came home [30:07] anyway. It's been a pleasure. Apologies [30:09] were a little hard at the beginning. I [30:10] I'm I'm a sparr. I fight. And that was [30:13] too aggressive.
