Transcript [00:00] Well, what's up everybody? I hope you're [00:04] enjoying better weather than I am, but [00:07] I'm certainly not going to complain as [00:10] the last few days until today were [00:12] absolutely spectacular. It would be like [00:14] Southern California [00:17] weather, that type of weather, that [00:20] micro environment within a mile of the [00:25] beaches of the California coast. [00:29] hot sun, cool breeze. Although I'm not [00:32] anywhere near California right now, but [00:34] I'm very grateful that I got to enjoy a [00:36] few days of that California like [00:38] weather. Now, we've return to the [00:42] weather more typical where I'm at, which [00:44] is hazy, hot, humid, and rainy. Anyway, [00:50] as many of you know, Benjamin Netanyahu [00:54] is back here in the USA. Okay. He's [00:58] visiting ostensibly to participate [01:03] in Lindsey Graham's funeral or memorial [01:07] service. Now, I probably shouldn't say [01:11] ostensibly because Benjamin Netanyahu [01:14] and Lindsey Graham were very close. They [01:16] were indeed friends. So, I'm not [01:19] claiming by any means that BB's coming [01:21] here [01:23] as a fake friend, you know, to cover [01:25] another reason that he's here. But while [01:27] he's here, he's also going to, if he [01:31] hasn't already, meet with Donald Trump [01:34] in order to try to persuade President [01:37] Trump to restart this war in earnest. a [01:42] war that of course as all of you know [01:44] who follow me I was [01:47] witnessed to as I was in the war. Okay, [01:50] I wasn't a soldier in the war but I was [01:52] in Israel during the war uh just outside [01:56] of Jerusalem because I was there guiding [01:58] several tours just before that war [02:01] began. In fact, I was stuck in Israel [02:03] for both wars, both the war last summer [02:07] as well as round two, which started on [02:11] February 28th. But as you also know, [02:15] again, those of you that follow me [02:17] regularly, since round two ended, I [02:21] haven't really [02:23] loitered too much in that subject of the [02:27] war. The reason being is because what [02:29] I've learned and we all have learned is [02:32] that Donald Trump is predictably [02:36] unpredictable. [02:38] To try to predict the turns that this [02:40] war or ceasefire [02:43] war ceasefire war trying to predict the [02:46] turns that this will take is almost [02:49] impossible. [02:51] And therefore, rather than just [02:52] constantly dealing speculation, which is [02:54] then discredited merely, you know, a [02:57] couple days later, I've decided for the [02:59] most part to take a break from the war. [03:03] And therefore, today we're going to [03:06] continue our series that I've named the [03:10] demolishing series. Now, as you know, [03:12] this entire series is based on a [03:16] singular episode of the Tucker Carlson [03:20] show, namely his interview with fellow [03:24] replacement theologist J. D. Hall. Now, [03:29] thus far, we've taken the proverbial [03:32] wrecking ball to demolish in one episode [03:36] Tucker Carlson's Christian anti-Zionism. [03:40] Because remember, Tucker is obsessed and [03:43] hates what he calls Christian Zionism. [03:46] In fact, Tucker says of Christian [03:48] Zionism and Christian Zionist, that [03:52] they're his least favorite people on the [03:55] entire planet. So, one episode was [03:58] dedicated to that. A second episode [04:02] dealt with demolishing JD's and Tucker's [04:06] covenant theology. That's another name [04:10] for replacement theologists. A lot of [04:12] replacement theologists do not like to [04:15] be called replacement theologists. They [04:18] feel that that's a a term of derision [04:21] and therefore they prefer to be called [04:23] covenant theologists. And I've tried my [04:25] best over the last few episodes to [04:27] respect them or respect their will as it [04:29] relates to that issue and therefore call [04:31] them covenant theologist. So therefore, [04:34] one of the episodes was called [04:35] demolishing Tucker's covenant theology. [04:39] And lastly, I did an episode related to [04:42] demolishing Tucker's Marcianism. [04:45] Now, I've done many episodes on this [04:47] channel on the very topic of Marcianism, [04:50] and that was just the latest installment [04:53] on my taking on what really is a [04:57] modern-day revival of one of the [04:59] earliest heresies [05:02] in Christianity. Okay? [05:05] Marcianism. Now, this is amazing. As [05:08] I've said, this entire [05:10] series, this demolishing series is based [05:13] on a singular episode of Tucker [05:16] Carlson's own show, namely his interview [05:19] with Jay Dhal. And even though I've done [05:22] three episodes already in this series, [05:25] would you believe we've only covered 18 [05:28] minutes of that Tucker Carlson episode? [05:32] And therefore, I said last week in my [05:34] introduction to that episode that this [05:38] interview between Tucker Carlson and JD [05:40] Hall is a gift that keeps on giving. And [05:45] therefore, today we're doing episode 4. [05:48] I'm hoping that by the end of this [05:50] episode, I get 25 minutes in to what is [05:53] a hour and a half long [05:57] interview between Tucker and JD. Now, I [06:00] haven't [06:02] watched yet the full 1 hour and a half [06:05] because I'm finding it actually painful. [06:08] You know, painful in the way that you're [06:10] familiar with when you just watch [06:11] something that's so annoyingly untrue. [06:15] I'm sure you've all encountered videos [06:17] or interviews where you're just almost [06:20] nauseated by uh you can't stand too long [06:24] to watch the video because it's just [06:28] constantly turnurning out what you know [06:31] to be falsehoods. That's how I feel [06:34] about this particular video between this [06:37] interview between Tucker and J Hall. And [06:41] yet I've decided to make a series about [06:42] it because the misconceptions they're [06:46] being pedled by these two characters [06:49] have unfortunately caught wind and [06:51] become very popular in today's culture. [06:56] Now Steve, what are you going to take [06:58] the wrecking ball to today? Well, today [07:02] we're going to deal with two things. [07:06] popular misconceptions about the rise of [07:09] what's called rabbitical Judaism. And [07:12] that's going to take up most of today's [07:15] episode. And secondly, I'm going to take [07:18] up Tucker and J D slander of a guy named [07:22] John Nelson Darby, who really is [07:25] considered to be the godfather or [07:27] forefather of what's called [07:30] dispensationalism. [07:32] and dispensationalism [07:34] is the favorite straw man that Tucker [07:38] and J D love to attack. Now, I've told [07:41] you before and I'm saying it again that [07:44] as far as I'm concerned, [07:46] dispensationalism [07:48] is really just a term of derision for [07:52] taking the Old Testament literally. And [07:56] it's, and I'll argue this later on in [08:00] the video, that contrary to Tucker and J [08:04] D's assertion that John Nelson Darby was [08:07] introducing an innovation into [08:10] Christianity. [08:12] The truth really is is that John Nelson [08:14] Darby and his theology which would later [08:19] be encapsulated in the Scoffield Bible, [08:23] okay, and other favorite straw man [08:26] that's attacked by people on the [08:28] replacement theology side of this debate [08:31] that what John Nelson Darby was really [08:33] doing was reactionary, not an [08:35] innovation, but instead trying to go [08:39] back to the original understanding [08:41] understanding of what I call the Hebrew [08:44] Bible, but others call the Old Testament [08:47] before it was totally abused by being [08:51] subjected [08:53] to centuries of later false Christian [08:58] theologies being projected onto the Old [09:02] Testament, particularly [09:04] the chapters of the prophets that deal [09:08] with the future redemption of the Jewish [09:11] people and the nation of Israel. All [09:14] right, folks. Let's jump into this [09:18] episode. [09:20] And the Jewish people, those who did not [09:23] convert and follow Christ, [09:26] ended up having to make a new religion [09:28] in 70 AD when the Romans destroyed the [09:32] temple because all of those rights and [09:35] rituals that we discussed, you know, [09:37] that God had given the Jewish people for [09:39] them to see and understand who Jesus [09:41] was, the festival of booths, Passover, [09:46] um all of those various rituals and the [09:49] different kinds of sacrifices. All [09:52] required a temple. [09:53] >> Yes. [09:53] >> And it required an altar. It required [09:56] blood. It required a priesthood to make [09:58] that sacrifice. [10:01] Those no longer existed after 70 AD. And [10:06] so over the course of hundreds of years, [10:09] you know, the the sect of the Pharisees [10:12] that grew into modern Judaism had to [10:15] essentially invent a Judaism [10:18] that is not what you see in the pages of [10:21] the Old Testament. They renamed some [10:23] feasts, right? Like they still call it [10:26] Passover, but it's not. It doesn't [10:28] resemble the Passover of the Old [10:30] Testament. It's a completely new [10:32] disparit religion. [10:35] Okay, [10:36] overall this clip is comprised of [10:40] truths, [10:41] half-truths, [10:43] and outright falsehoods. Now, that kind [10:48] of mixture can be particularly toxic [10:52] because there's enough core truth being [10:54] presented to fish in a listener to [10:57] embibe [10:59] or embrace the falsehoods too [11:01] uncritically. [11:03] I first want to focus on this blurb at [11:08] the beginning of the clip. Take a listen [11:11] again just to this first part where JD [11:15] talks about the Jewish people who did [11:18] not convert and follow Christ. [11:23] And the Jewish people, those who did not [11:25] convert and follow Christ, [11:29] ended up having to make a new religion. [11:32] For those of you who have followed me [11:34] for some time, you've heard me assert [11:37] even defiantly that Jesus did not come [11:41] to convert the Jewish people to a new [11:46] religion called Christianity. [11:50] Rather, he came to complete Judaism. [11:55] This is captured beautifully by the [11:58] Greek word telos which means both and [12:05] and aim at the same time. [12:09] This is much like when we ask someone in [12:13] English [12:14] to what end or toward what end are you [12:19] doing something? [12:21] We're not talking about end as in the [12:25] Latin word terminus from which we get [12:28] our English word terminal [12:31] like to be terminally ill with cancer. [12:35] For when we hear that someone is [12:37] terminally ill, we know that that [12:40] expression is communicating end or [12:44] finality of that person's life. [12:49] But here in our present context, Jesus [12:53] is [12:54] the telos. Now I'm using Greek and how [12:58] appropriate that I am because the New [13:00] Testament was written in Greek and that [13:04] word telos by the way appears many times [13:07] throughout the New Testament in this [13:09] association and context and I'm using it [13:11] in which is to say again Jesus is [13:17] understood as the telos or aim [13:21] to which Jewish history, the Torah and [13:25] the prophets have been pointing to all [13:28] along. Again, Jesus did not come to end [13:33] Judaism as in the Latin terminus or our [13:38] terminal, but to complete or fulfill it [13:42] in its totality. [13:45] He's the climax of Judaism. Although [13:49] most of my fellow Jews have yet to come [13:52] to this knowledge, a knowledge by the [13:54] way that only the Holy Spirit can reveal [13:57] to a person, be they a Jew or Gentile. [14:02] And at this stage in history, he's [14:04] blinded most of my fellow Jews from [14:07] seeing or perceiving [14:09] this reality. It is what it is. Jesus [14:13] did not come to cast the Jews, Judaism, [14:18] the land of Israel, or even as we [14:22] studied when we took up Jeremiah 31:31 [14:25] in either last episode or the one before [14:28] that, he didn't even come to cast aside [14:32] the Torah of Moses per the theology of [14:36] replacement theologists like JD Hall and [14:39] Tucker Carlson. [14:42] Rather, all of that is going to come [14:44] into its fullest fruition and expression [14:49] in the millennial reign of Jesus when he [14:53] returns and set ups his kingdom at [14:56] ground zero of that millennium in [14:59] Jerusalem, Israel. I need to emphasize [15:03] this because everything that I just said [15:07] which would have been taken for granted [15:10] as obvious by Jesus's [15:13] first followers, his disciples, all of [15:16] that has become so foreign to gentile [15:21] Christianity with the exception of a few [15:24] outliers, [15:26] namely those hated dispensationalists. [15:31] When Jesus's disciples embraced Jesus as [15:36] the Messiah, they were embracing him as [15:40] the long prophecied descendant of David [15:44] concerning whom hundreds of verses of [15:46] scripture for tell that he will save [15:50] ethnic Israel both spiritually and [15:53] politically, [15:55] not some metaphorical Israel, but [15:59] national Israel from its enemies, [16:03] restoring its scattered exiles back to [16:06] the land of Israel and raising Israel up [16:11] from being the proverbial tale of the [16:14] nations [16:16] to the head of the nations. [16:19] Not a single Jewish person in Jesus's [16:24] day, and that includes all his [16:26] disciples, [16:28] not a single one of them, would have [16:30] called him the Messiah, if they really [16:34] believed that Jesus's intent was to [16:37] contravene all those promises [16:40] sown through, and scattered among [16:43] hundreds of passages in the Hebrew Bible [16:46] or Old Testament. [16:48] Finally, as it relates to this matter, [16:51] we see in at least two places in the [16:54] book of Acts that his most immediate and [16:58] intimate followers, those whom he walked [17:00] the length and breadth of Israel with [17:02] throughout his entire earthly ministry, [17:05] those whom he ate with daily, slept by [17:09] nightly for almost three years. in all [17:14] the above situations. He likely spoke [17:17] with them for thousands of hours over [17:20] that time. And yet none of those [17:24] individuals, all of who were Jews, came [17:28] to the conclusion that Jesus was [17:30] abandoning those ancient associations [17:34] and beliefs concerning the role of the [17:37] Messiah. [17:38] We know this from Acts chapter 1 where [17:43] before he ascends to heaven, his [17:45] disciples [17:47] ask him saying, "Lord, will you at this [17:50] time restore the kingdom of Israel?" [17:53] >> They obviously didn't abandon what's [17:56] commonly referred to today as land [17:59] theology, i.e. the land of Israel still [18:03] having a central role in the messianic [18:07] age. [18:09] And Jesus does not negate this belief. [18:13] He only delays its fulfillment. [18:17] Elsewhere in Acts, in a less quoted [18:20] verse, Peter says when giving a speech, [18:23] probably near or on the southern steps, [18:27] which many of you have visited with me [18:30] on a tour of Israel, when he said this, [18:33] "And now, brothers, I know that you [18:36] acted in ignorance, as did also your [18:39] rulers. But what God foretold by the [18:42] mouth of all the prophets that his [18:44] Messiah would suffer, he thus fulfilled. [18:48] Repent therefore and turn back that your [18:50] sins may be blotted out. And here comes [18:53] the crucial part. and that times of [18:57] refreshing may come from the presence of [19:00] the Lord and that he may send the [19:02] Messiah appointed for you, Jesus, whom [19:05] heaven must receive until the time for [19:10] restoring all the things about which God [19:13] spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets [19:16] long ago. [19:18] And there Peter is very clear. He's [19:21] telling his Jewish listeners there that [19:24] if you repent, [19:27] then God will restore. He'll do [19:30] everything that was prophesied [19:32] throughout all the Old Testament or [19:35] let's say in all the books of the Old [19:37] Testament prophets. Those very same [19:40] prophecies that replacement theologists, [19:43] covenant theologists, whatever they want [19:44] to call themselves have for the last [19:47] 2,000 years have dismissed and have said [19:49] they're not to be taken literally. Here, [19:52] Peter still treats those promises, those [19:56] prophecies literally. [19:58] So, as much as JD Hall and Tucker [20:03] despise this fact, the church did not [20:08] come to replace Israel, the forever [20:12] covenanted [20:14] nation of Yahweh. Rather, Israel was, [20:18] is, and always will be the root and [20:22] stock of the people of God to which [20:26] saved Gentiles per Romans 11 have been [20:30] grafted in, not replaced, grafted in. [20:35] All right, moving on. Let's look at the [20:38] next clip. [20:41] And so over the course of hundreds of [20:44] years, [20:45] you know, the the sect of the Pharisees [20:48] that grew into modern Judaism had to [20:51] essentially invent a Judaism [20:54] that is not what you see in the pages of [20:57] the Old Testament. They renamed some [20:59] feasts, right? Like they still call it [21:02] Passover, but it's not. It doesn't [21:04] resemble the Passover of the Old [21:06] Testament. It's a completely new [21:08] disparit religion. All right, here in [21:12] lays some of that core truth that I said [21:15] would be sewn into this clip that we're [21:18] focusing on in this episode. [21:21] Now following the turbulent first [21:24] century, namely the rejection of Jesus [21:28] by the majority of the Jewish people and [21:31] the destruction of our temple in AD70, [21:36] the naysaying wing of Judaism, in other [21:39] words, that [21:42] Judaism that did not accept Jesus as a [21:45] Messiah had to reinvent to a degree the [21:49] religion. [21:51] That's true. And it's quite a story [21:55] and I'm going to tell you a little bit [21:58] about that story. Now, in the year 66 [22:03] AD, [22:04] a revolt, the first of three Jewish [22:08] revolts against Rome [22:11] breaks out in Judea and it lasts for [22:15] several years. The war would not come to [22:18] an end. ultimately until 72 or 73 AD [22:25] with the concluding battle of that war, [22:27] the battle of Msada. [22:31] But the war did climax in 70 AD when the [22:35] Romans under the general Titus besieges [22:39] the city of Jerusalem. Now the Romans [22:43] execute a perfect besieging of the city. [22:47] They succeed to seal it hermetically and [22:50] no one is allowed to leave the city [22:53] except for the dead. And therefore, [22:56] we're told in the Talmud an amazing [22:59] story. Now, whether it really happened [23:02] exactly as the Talmud says or not, we [23:05] don't know. Okay? But it is the famous [23:08] origin story of today's [23:12] rebbitic Judaism which is during that [23:14] siege of Jerusalem [23:17] one of the main teachers or rabbis of [23:21] the Pharisee sect his name Yohanan [23:25] Benzakai he tells his disciples all [23:28] right there's a siege of Jerusalem and [23:30] they're not letting anyone else out or [23:33] they're not letting anybody out but for [23:34] the said, "Put me in a coffin and take [23:38] me out of the city as though dead." And [23:42] Johan Benzakai's disciples do that very [23:45] thing. They place him in a coffin. It [23:48] was probably just this, you know, what [23:50] we refer today as just a basic pine box. [23:53] And as they're taking him out of the [23:56] city ostensibly to bury him or dispose [23:59] of his remains, they lay his coffin at [24:03] the feet of the Roman general Titus. And [24:07] when Titus looks at the coffin, [24:10] surprise, Yohanan Benzakai jumps out or [24:14] begins to emerge from the coffin. You [24:16] can imagine how shocked the emperor, I'm [24:20] sorry, he would later become the [24:21] emperor, but the general Titus was in [24:23] that moment when Yohanan Benzakai comes [24:26] out of the coffin. And when he emerges [24:29] from the coffin, he begins to negotiate [24:32] with Titus. And he says, "Titus, if you [24:34] let me and my disciples [24:38] peacefully, peaceibly [24:40] leave the city without harm to our [24:43] persons, you know, without killing us, [24:45] crucifying us, taking us as slaves. [24:48] We'll set up shop in the place called [24:52] Yavn." Yavn exists to this day. It's a [24:55] coastal town or coastal city on Israel's [24:58] Mediterranean coast, south of Tel Aviv. [25:01] Okay. But to the north of Ashcolon and [25:04] Ashdold. And there Titus, I will [25:08] reestablish my seminary for lack of a [25:12] better word. Okay. My seminary of [25:15] Pharisea [25:16] Judaism. Phariseaic Judaism. And there [25:20] my disciples and I pledge to live [25:22] peacefully to not rebel. [25:25] And Titus allows them to do that. And [25:28] Yohanan Benzakai that leading Pharisee [25:31] takes his disciples [25:34] safely to Yavn where they settle there [25:37] and they basically begin to reconstitute [25:40] Judaism [25:42] in the aftermath of the destruction of [25:46] our temple. Now JD Deh Hall is [25:49] absolutely right in that the Judaism of [25:53] our forefathers in the Old Testament was [25:55] temple centric. It required [26:00] the temple in Jerusalem to carry out [26:04] most of the important mitzvot or [26:06] commandments related to the religion. [26:09] Particularly [26:10] as all of you know as Christians the [26:12] atonement of sin. Without that temple [26:16] and its altar there can be no atonement [26:20] for sin. And therefore what what do we [26:22] do? What happens when that [26:25] templescentric religion is dealt what [26:30] looked like a destroying hand by the [26:32] Romans. it begins to reconstitute itself [26:36] as what we call today rabbitical [26:40] Judaism. Now, it's called rabbitical [26:43] Judaism because it's centered mostly on [26:46] rabbis and not the scriptures. I'm not [26:50] saying that the scriptures have no place [26:52] in Judaism. They do, of course, [26:53] especially the first five books of the [26:55] Bible, the Torah, which are studied in [26:58] seminaries called yeshivas to this day. [27:01] But they're not read, they don't read [27:04] those scriptures like you and I do [27:07] where, you know, we just have the Bible [27:08] in front of us and we're reading it. [27:10] They're reading it through the [27:11] filtration system of the Talmud. And the [27:15] Talmud is a multi- multi-volume [27:19] series. You would think, you know, it [27:21] looks like, you know, before the [27:24] invention of the internet and and and [27:26] Wikipedia and now AI, if you remember, [27:29] people used to have in their houses the [27:31] Encyclopedia Britannica, you know, or a [27:35] similar [27:37] series. And this would be like a 20 to [27:40] 30 volume encyclopedia. The Talmud is [27:44] very similar. Very few people have ever [27:46] really read through the entirety of the [27:48] tomt. I'm having and I'm of the [27:50] understanding that it takes something [27:52] like five or seven years to do so. Okay. [27:55] It's it's that big of a it's that it's [27:58] that long of a text [28:02] divided among you know like I said many [28:04] many volumes. And this is why Judaism [28:07] today is called rabbitical [28:10] Judaism because [28:12] its followers don't follow the Bible per [28:16] se [28:19] without the filtration or mediation of [28:23] the Talmud. And the Talmud is basically [28:28] a text that is filled with discussions [28:35] between rabbis, debates between rabbis, [28:38] arguments between rabbis concerning [28:41] how the commandments or mitzvot should [28:44] be properly executed by Jewish people [28:48] today post the temple. Okay, post the [28:51] temple period. In other words, in this [28:54] era since the destruction of the temple. [28:56] So JD is not completely wrong about [28:59] that. Now where I disagree with him is [29:01] he makes it out to be that the religion [29:03] has nothing in common with what preceded [29:06] it. And that's not true. Passover is [29:08] still Passover. The feast of tabernacles [29:11] is still the feast of tabernacles. [29:14] And shuote, which most of you know by [29:16] the name is Pentecost, is still that [29:19] holiday shuot. It's true that it's [29:22] adapted itself and it's adapted those [29:25] holidays to that post temple reality. So [29:30] for instance, today when we the Jews [29:33] have our Passover seders once a year, [29:35] the liturgy that we follow came to being [29:38] about the year 200 AD. Okay. What we [29:42] call the Passover Hagada. that book of [29:46] liturgy from or which we read each [29:49] Passover, you know, sitting around that [29:52] Passover uh sader dish with the various [29:55] elements of the seder, the the the lamb [29:58] shank, the the the hero, the bitter [30:01] herbs, the parsley, all the various [30:04] things. What we call Passover today in [30:08] terms of its [30:10] execution, that's true. It it dates to [30:13] the 2n century, the end of the 2 century [30:16] A, [30:17] but it's not a total reinvention. Now, [30:21] interestingly, most Jews would be [30:22] shocked to hear this. The oldest version [30:26] of a Passover seder that exists in any [30:30] writing to this very day is the last [30:33] supper of Jesus in the New Testament. [30:36] That is the oldest [30:38] surviving [30:40] literary witness of a Passover seder [30:44] that exists in this day. I'm not saying [30:46] there was nothing that at one time [30:48] existed before the New Testament, but [30:51] all that is lost. And all that remains [30:55] is that New Testament last supper as her [30:59] oldest literary testimony of what a [31:03] Jewish Passover was and how they [31:05] celebrated it in ancient times. [31:10] Now all of that is to say that of all [31:14] the Jewish pre70 AD sects such as the [31:19] Sadducees, the Pharisees, the Essenes [31:22] who are famously associated with the [31:24] Dead Sea Scrolls, the Nazarines who [31:27] were, you know, Jesus's followers and [31:30] earliest Christianity, even though it's [31:32] not called Christianity yet. Of all [31:34] those pre70 AD sects, only the Pharisees [31:40] and the Jesus sect, the Nazarines, are [31:44] the two sects of that turbulent time [31:49] that have survived until this day. Those [31:52] of us called Jews who aren't believers [31:54] in Jesus follow the Pharisee sect. And [31:57] of course, those of us who are Jews that [32:00] believe that Jesus is the Messiah, even [32:02] though that makes us an outlier of [32:05] outliers, okay, so few Jews believe that [32:08] today, [32:10] they would identify with that earlier [32:14] sect, that original sect that followed [32:16] Jesus of Jesus's disciples, what I just [32:19] called that Nazarene sect. Only those [32:22] two sects survive to this day, the [32:24] Pharisees and the Nazarines. [32:28] Now, since 70 AD, I would argue [32:30] similarly as dispensationalists would [32:34] that as it relates to spreading faith in [32:37] the Jewish God to the world. The church [32:40] has temporarily taken over that project [32:45] until the fullness of the Gentiles comes [32:49] in per Paul in the book of Romans. But [32:54] once the fullness of the Gentiles comes [32:57] in, Israel returns exactly as Tucker's [33:03] guest J Dehaw bitterly and mockingly [33:07] dismissed in last week's episode that [33:10] God's main plan is Israel, but because [33:12] they've been naughty and disobedient, [33:15] the church comes in and we're a [33:17] parenthesis. [33:19] So instead of being like the bride of [33:21] Christ, the church is more like a summer [33:25] fling. [33:26] And while JD's choice of unbecoming [33:31] words and their accompanying mocking [33:33] tone are offkilter, [33:36] the substance of what he says is not. At [33:40] the end of this age and throughout the [33:43] entire duration of that millennial reign [33:46] of Jesus spoken of by John in the book [33:50] of Revelation, Israel returns to center [33:54] stage whether people including [33:57] professing Christians [33:59] like it or not. [34:02] That's what hundreds of passages of [34:06] scripture from the entirety of the Bible [34:09] clearly teach when left alone and not [34:13] tampered with in order to force fit them [34:16] into later replacement theologies. [34:21] I feel sad for those Christians, many of [34:24] whom I know personally, that dismiss [34:27] this stuff as nonessential. [34:31] They couldn't be more wrong. For without [34:36] a proper understanding of this topic, [34:39] you simply cannot understand why [34:42] modernday Israel is at the centrality or [34:46] epicenter of world events today. And at [34:49] worse, some of those Christians are at [34:53] risk, unfortunately, of siding with the [34:56] enemy, Satan, in this crucial subject, [35:01] no matter how well-intended [35:04] they are. Thus, that famous expression [35:08] about [35:10] the road to hell being paved with good [35:13] intentions. Okay, [35:16] moving on to the next clip, which has to [35:20] do with that favorite straw man of [35:22] replacement theologist, [35:25] John Nelson Darby, the subject of which [35:29] I will take up over the next couple of [35:33] clips. [35:35] And that's why you have uh a a desire [35:38] among Christians throughout the last [35:41] 2,000 years praying for the salvation of [35:43] the Jewish people. To be very clear, the [35:46] Christian or covenantal theologian uh [35:50] message is not that Jews are totally cut [35:53] off from God and that they cannot be [35:55] saved and that God hates them or [35:57] anything like that, but it's that [35:59] congratulations, you're ethnically [36:02] Jewish. That's great. God doesn't care. [36:05] Like every other group of people on the [36:08] face of the planet, you need to repent [36:09] of your sins and believe the gospel. [36:11] That's the Christian message. John [36:13] Nelson Derby comes along and the message [36:16] towards the Jewish people begins to [36:18] change and begins to evolve and suddenly [36:20] it's instead of you need to repent of [36:22] your sins and believe the gospel, it's [36:25] you're you're special. You're special to [36:28] God. God's going to bless you regardless [36:31] of whether or not you have faith in [36:33] Jesus just because you're Jewish. [36:36] >> All right, I want to deal with this [36:39] quote of J. D in that clip where he [36:42] says, "Instead of you needing to repent [36:45] of your sins and believe the gospel, [36:49] it's now you're special. You're special [36:52] to God. God's going to bless you [36:54] regardless if you have faith in Jesus [36:57] just because you're Jewish. [37:00] Now, he claims that John Nelson Darby [37:04] introduced that and that's at the core [37:08] according to J. Dhall of John Nelson [37:10] Darby's dispensationalism. [37:14] Now, over the past 26 years that I've [37:18] guided thousands, probably tens of [37:20] thousands of American dispensationalist [37:24] Christians, I never heard a single one [37:28] of them express that view. They would [37:32] rightly and passionately consider that [37:35] to be a baseless slander of their [37:39] theology. [37:40] Every single one of them, especially the [37:44] pastors, would say that Jewish [37:46] individuals like Gentile individuals [37:50] need to come under the same saving blood [37:53] of Jesus the Messiah. [37:56] as it relates to God's everlasting [37:59] covenant with the collective Jewish [38:01] people [38:03] that they or we are his forever [38:07] covenanted nation to whom he Yahweh has [38:11] forever given the land of Israel that [38:15] still stands. [38:17] These are separate covenants. The one [38:21] that Abrahamic covenant [38:24] regarding the land of Israel is earthly [38:27] and limited to the here and now. The [38:30] other, the new covenant is heavenly and [38:33] pertains to the hereafter. [38:36] As I said last week, it's not a case of [38:40] either or, but of both. and [38:45] >> John Nelson Darby comes along and the [38:48] message towards the Jewish people begins [38:50] to change and begins to evolve and [38:52] suddenly it's instead of you need to [38:54] repent of your sins and believe the [38:56] gospel, it's you're you're special. [38:58] You're special to God, God's going to [39:01] bless you regardless of whether or not [39:04] you have faith in Jesus just because [39:06] you're Jewish. All right, before [39:10] wrapping up this video, I have to deal [39:12] with this John Nelson Derby stuff. Now, [39:16] that's a name that's been dropped [39:17] several times during this interview [39:19] between Tucker and his guest J. D Hall. [39:22] So, that time has come and we have to [39:25] touch on the subject if just for a [39:27] moment even. Now, John Nelson Darby was [39:31] a serious man. definitely more serious [39:34] and he's presented by his nemesis in [39:36] modern day discourse and he one day [39:40] while reading Romans written by Paul [39:44] when he comes across that verse in which [39:46] Paul says did God cast away his people [39:50] after Darby reads that verse and [39:52] considers it carefully he then revisits [39:56] the Old Testament prophecies [39:58] and comes to the realization that in [40:01] order for Paul to be making sense here. [40:04] They have those prophecies have to be [40:07] preserved intact [40:10] as they were originally understood. In [40:13] other words, when the Hebrew Bible or [40:16] Old Testament is talking about Israel in [40:20] Isaiah, Jeremiah, [40:22] Ezekiel, the minor prophets, it's [40:25] referring to the Jewish people, to [40:26] Israel. out. Just so you know, later [40:29] Christian theology only believes that [40:32] halfway. Replacement theology believes [40:35] that when God is referring to Israel in [40:40] the prophetic books negatively, [40:43] when it's forecasting a day of reckoning [40:47] for the Jewish people preceding the [40:49] destruction of the temple in 586 BC, [40:53] that's referring to the Jews. In other [40:55] words, anything bad being projected or [40:58] prophesied about the Jews, well, that [41:00] really is about the Jews. But any of [41:02] those verses that talk about God's [41:06] ultimate forgiveness and redemption of [41:08] Israel, well, that's no longer ethnic [41:10] Israel. That's the church. And we all [41:12] know the church is basically a gentile [41:15] organization with a few token Jews like [41:19] myself uh numbered in it. So that's what [41:25] Darby [41:26] basically divorced himself from that [41:29] replacement theology that had gained the [41:33] sway in the church discussion as it [41:35] relates to Israel for the last several [41:39] centuries preceding his time. Now Darby [41:41] lived of course in the 19th century. [41:44] Now, Darby came to believe that the [41:46] present church age is a parenthesis or [41:50] using Paul's own words, a mystery not [41:54] explicitly revealed in the Hebrew Bible. [41:58] Darby also comes to believe, therefore, [42:00] that the prophetic clock for national [42:04] Israel stopped [42:06] when the majority of the Jewish people [42:09] rejected Jesus's messiahship or his uh [42:14] especially his first coming. And ever [42:17] since then, we've been in what's called [42:19] the church age. Now once the church age [42:22] concludes, [42:24] God will resume his literal earthly [42:27] program with national Israel to fulfill [42:31] his word and his everlasting [42:34] covenants. Now, the J. D. Halls of the [42:38] world will tell you that John Nelson [42:40] Darby introduced an innovation [42:44] into Christianity. And therefore, he's [42:47] got to be wrong. [42:49] For, as JD says elsewhere in this [42:52] interview with Tucker, he says, and it's [42:55] quoted here, that which is new or novel [42:59] is untrue. that which is true is not or [43:04] cannot be new. Ironically, here J. D is [43:10] quoting Charles Spurgeon, [43:13] who although he didn't agree with all of [43:16] Darby's rigid dispensations, [43:20] he did agree with Darby that the Old [43:23] Testament prophets were referring to a [43:26] literal ethnic Israel when speaking [43:30] about the future redemption of the [43:32] Jewish people. Was Darby's view of [43:38] future Israel an innovation? No. The [43:42] opposite. It was reactionary. [43:45] It was insisting on returning to a [43:48] consistent literal historical [43:52] interpretation of the Old Testament [43:54] text, specifically regarding national [43:59] Israel, allowing the Hebrew Bible to [44:03] speak in its own voice, directly [44:05] opposing the by now [44:08] centuries old tradition of church [44:12] supersessionism [44:14] or what's also also known as replacement [44:16] theology. [44:18] Now what replacement theologists do to [44:20] attack what on its face is a reactionary [44:25] non innovative take on the Old Testament [44:28] is to rather attack the pre-tribulation [44:33] rapture esquetology which is conjoined [44:35] to Darby's worldview [44:38] and regarded by his detractors as an [44:41] innovation. By attacking the preerttrib [44:44] rapture as an innovation, they try to [44:46] undermine the rest of Derby. But as it [44:50] relates to that topic, the [44:52] pre-tribulation rapture and these [44:55] people's problem with it, well, that [44:58] we'll have to save to another episode. [45:01] We're out of time. We covered a lot. And [45:04] I hope you found this time profitable. [45:08] Don't forget [45:10] to give a thumbs up to the video and to [45:14] leave a comment. By doing those things, [45:17] you help this video and my channel rise [45:21] through the YouTube algorithm and be [45:24] seen by a wider and larger audience. So, [45:27] if you think that what I'm teaching you [45:29] guys has a relevant currency to today's [45:32] discussion and would help others just [45:35] like you, please give the video a thumbs [45:38] up and hit the subscribe button if you [45:40] haven't. I want to thank all of you that [45:43] have treated me to cups of coffee over [45:45] the past several weeks. For those of you [45:48] that haven't done so and you're [45:50] wondering, gee, I how do I do so? 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